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Erik95LS
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So I know a lot of you have done this or looped your steering lines or simply taken the belt off to get rid of your power steering. Some like it.....some don't. A big thanks to Matt (Dropspeed) for first going through this and making the info available. Looping the lines full of fluid or simply taking the belt off will of course disable your power steering, but it leaves you having to move all the fluid and air through the system and gives you a really heavy, hard to turn wheel. Properly looping the system on a power rack with a vent of some sort and minimal fluid to lubricate the rack as I have done will give you a much better feel and it's barely more effort than with power steering in place other than when stationary on wide, sticky tires.

There are a few kits on the market to do this, but most are pricey and/or hard to find. You can do this yourself for as little as $20 or take it on up to $120+. Just depends on what parts you decide to get. There's NO need for AN stuff. The vented rack does not create much pressure in the lines so there's really no point. I had credit with Pegasus though and nothing else to spend it on so I got all this stuff. I'm really happy with it though. And it looks cool <img name="icon" src="http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emsmilep.gif" border="0"> You really only need a metric pipe adapter with a hose barb on the other end. One is already in place on the other rack port so you only need the one. Then some rubber hose, a t-fitting, and some sort of breather and a place to mount it. You're just giving the air and fluid pressure from both ports someplace to go as the rack moves back and forth. So you run a hose ( or in my case AN piping) from both fittings to 2 of the ports on the T fitting and then hose from the remaining port to the breather. Add a bit of fluid to lubricate the rack (it will spit out what it doesn't need) and you're good to go. excellent steering feel with a nice controllable weight to it. Car feels like a whole new animal.

Here is a list of the parts I used.

1x adapter. [ 15.117-6-6] LINK

(If you wish to use no other AN stuff just get this barb adapter and place it on the fitting above and run your hose. [FCM1512] LINK )

1x T-Fitting in -6 [FBM 5062] LINK

1x 180deg socketless -6 fitting [FBM 1542] LINK

1x straight or angled socketless -6 fitting (up to you) [FBM1512] (for straight)LINK

1x Female flare swivel connector in -6 [FBM 2914] LINK

and then about 4-6 feet of -6 socketless hose or any 3/8" rubber hose. Then you can connect the hose to whatever breather you want to use. Any reservoir with a big enough fitting that you can clamp those hose to will work, but I used one from Tilton. With them you have to buy all the parts and assemble it yourself so to do what i did you would need the following items from this link (or wherever you get stuff from that sells Titlon): 3557, 3558, 3564, 3577, and then a small hose clamp.
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Now to pictures.

my breather and a bracket I made to mount it to.

As always feel free to ask any questions or add your own experiences/comments with this. Or if you found other cheaper solutions by all means post them.

<img name="icon" src="http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/embeer.gif" border="0"> <img name="icon" src="http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />


EDIT: Fixed links and updated part numbers

Modified by Erik95LS at 12:48 AM 4/14/2014


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I need to do this on the chump car soon. I'll have to ask you about it in more detail I guess then :)
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absolutely dude! Anything you need.
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Have any pics of the routing of the hoses on the car from the breather to the rack?
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comes down out of the breather and runs under the motor mount and right along the shock tower and down to the rack. no zipties or anything securing the hose. going under the mount perfectly secures the hose and keeps it out of anything that could damage (or be damaged by) it. [img:27a1ahgo]http://www.erikhegg.com/oldcarphotos/cooler/06.jpg[/img:27a1ahgo]
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Tech. :)
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Ordered enough parts to do the DD and the R! I'll be practicing on the DD :lol:

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Couple install pics:



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looks awesome, after driving erik's car this is definitely on the list of things to do now.
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I think I'll need to drive a car with this done to consider it. Is a more firm/controlled wheel at higher speeds why you've done this?
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Yeah. A lot more control over the steering wth the power assist. Everything the front wheels see gets transfered throgh to the driver far better also. Car is so much nicer to drive too. Parking is mildly annoying though, but who does that anyway?
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Yeah. A lot more control over the steering with the power assist. Everything the front wheels see gets transferred through to the driver far better also. Car is so much nicer to drive too. Parking is mildly annoying though, but who does that anyway?

ha! You would've hated driving my Si with electronic power steering. I definitely will have to think about doing this down the road. I'm sure it gives you much more of a "raw" feel as you described.

Modified by coolhandluke at 7:54 AM 4/7/2014


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Quote, originally posted by "Erik95LS" »
Yeah. A lot more control over the steering wth the power assist. Everything the front wheels see gets transfered throgh to the driver far better also. Car is so much nicer to drive too. Parking is mildly annoying though, but who does that anyway?

Some ITR owners do a lot of "parking"...

Modified by coolhandluke at 7:51 AM 4/7/2014


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well no power steering and wide sticky tires definitely makes for "hard parking"
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Yeah I had to do a K-turn with 215/45/16 Azenis today. Suckage.

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Quote, originally posted by "Erik95LS" »
Yeah. A lot more control over the steering with the power assist. Everything the front wheels see gets transferred through to the driver far better also. Car is so much nicer to drive too. Parking is mildly annoying though, but who does that anyway?


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Some ITR owners do a lot of "parking"...

My ITR has been parking for quite some time now.

Modified by coolhandluke at 7:53 AM 4/7/2014


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I used a home depot 1/4" NPT 3/8" barb fitting, with a 3/8" barb T fitting and a few feet of hose on 2 cars now. It's not as pretty, but very cheap. I still need to find a breather, and need to add a little extra fluid to the racks.
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This is pretty cool, its really interesting... I would have to feel a car with this done to make a decesion.. Thanks for posting Erik
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nice write up

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Nate, you can drive R-box and see what it's like with the belt simply removed (thanks to an off at ASR, lol!) and then prob drive Erik's and compare. I need to loop mine but I have been too lazy, so at Expo, I'll be like "SONUVA MOTHER F---" through, what, turn 9-10? LOL :D
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