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I would definitely check out the Eibach RSB. It is ~22mm but with stronger steel and has three settings for stiffness. Oh and it is super affordable.


I was looking on jhpusa, it looks like the eibach 25mm doesn't work with itr control arms?

https://www.jhpusa.com/store/p...=8876

If I can find the 22mm that should work with the itr control arms?


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I was looking on jhpusa, it looks like the eibach 25mm doesn't work with itr control arms?

https://www.jhpusa.com/store/p...=8876

If I can find the 22mm that should work with the itr control arms?

Noticed this as well on the Eibach site when I took a look. They only list the front sway for the ITR.


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I was looking on jhpusa, it looks like the eibach 25mm doesn't work with itr control arms?

https://www.jhpusa.com/store/p...=8876

If I can find the 22mm that should work with the itr control arms?

That isn't the correct one. I'm traveling the next week but I can confirm when I return. I also pinged Mark/Tony.


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I was looking on jhpusa, it looks like the eibach 25mm doesn't work with itr control arms?

https://www.jhpusa.com/store/p...=8876

If I can find the 22mm that should work with the itr control arms?

Update on the Eibach RSB:
Tony confirmed the black 25mm RSB is the old version and does not fit ITR rear LCA's. The updated version of the Eibach RSB is red and does clear. The red has been made for 6+ years so just double check when purchasing.


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I was looking on jhpusa, it looks like the eibach 25mm doesn't work with itr control arms?

https://www.jhpusa.com/store/p...=8876

If I can find the 22mm that should work with the itr control arms?


The black bars JHP sells are extremely old and do not work with ITR LCAs. The red ones that you've most likely have seen will work with the ITR LCAs but isn't a perfect fit on the ITR.

The spacing between the swaybar bushings is slightly different from ITR to non-ITR and EG chassis. We have a pressed on ring bushing stop that will be almost an inch from the bushing on ITR.

The bar can also be bolted right up to the subframe on the ITR. The black spacers we include are for non-ITR chassis that require a bit of spacing to clear the bushing stop ring.

Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R »

Noticed this as well on the Eibach site when I took a look. They only list the front sway for the ITR.

I purposely keep this bar off our website and catalog. There are too many open questions that come with mounting these on particular cars. If you know, you know. And if you don't, ask me, Mark or Jared.



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...And if you don't, ask me, Mark or Jared.

Thanks Tony!


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Not super useful to anyone at the moment (no ITR sizes currently) but he new Nexen is supposed to be the sister-tire to the next gen RS3. Early reports is that it's about 0.75 seconds slower than the 71R on a 69 second course. Supposed to have really good wear though so it may end up being a great track day tire. It's cheap as hell too...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...Sizes

Sooooooo... bringing this back up. I drove the new Nexen Sunday at a Dixie event (grippy concrete site). I've gotta say that I'm impressed with the tire. My thoughts of their 255/40 17 compared to the 265/35 18 RE71R I've been running this season:

Turn in doesn't feel as sharp and the tire generally feels less "racey".
A fair bit more tire noise.
Seemed to take heat just fine... At least comparable to the RE71.
Appears to run wide. The 255 is wider than the 265 RE71R and equally as wide as the 275 Bridgestone (all on 9.5" wide wheels).
Initial wear appears good.

I'll go out on a limb and say ithat, for this size comparison, there's maybe a couple tenths between the two. I ran the Nexen for 3 runs in the am and the Bridgestone for 3 runs in the pm. I didn't get a chance to do a "real" ire test where I went back and bracketed my afternoon runs with the Nexen. As a result, I don't know if my afternoon runs were faster because I figured out one section was faster than I thought, the track rubbered in, or the Nexens are genuinely off the pace of the Bridgestone. The timed difference between the 2 was almost exactly 1 second on a 52-53 second course BUT that entire second was made up in the last 1/3rd of the course where, when I compared data and video, I simply drove a better line and then carried more speed through a big sweeper and fast offsets section. Before that point the 2 times were on top of each other. My fast time on the Bridgestones was good enough for 2nd in Pro (0.25 out of 1st) and 4th in PAX (0.4 out of 1st) and sandwiched in with the faster guys.

I'll keep running these for a bit locally and see how they do but, so far, in pretty impressed by the product. Given that they've got a 225/45 15 out now that appears to be a solid 1" wider than the RE71R, these may be worth checking out.

Video of the 2 runs:

https://youtu.be/uSNJf14UGoE


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Thanks for the feedback Christian

Actually noticed the Nexens yesterday when I was browsing around Tirerack. Im tempted to try out the 225/45 on my 15x7 wheel. I know most people say it will feel like shit but Im wondering how much of that is personal preference. Couldnt I just run a bit more air pressure if it feels too sloppy?

The Treadwidth difference between the 205/50 71R and Nexen 225/45 is 1.1". The tire weight is identical, but the Nexen has .1 less diameter (more acceleration! lol).

FYI the 71R is in stock on Tirerack and there is a $70 prepaid card offer valid through 8/21/16


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Just my $0.02 but I wouldn't run a 225 on a 7" wide wheel unless I was doing it to deal with heat management issues and accepted going into things that wear and feel is gonna suck. The deal with pinching a tire is that, as you say, more pressure sorta fixes the issue BUT you end up compromising the contact patch with the extra pressure as well as still having a setup that feels about as satisfying as a loose a$$hole.

I tried a 205 Rival on a 15x6 and it was simply awful. If I ran enough pressure to keep the tire from rolling over, I ended up with wheelspin problems (hooray over-inflation!). Running the same 205 on a 15x7 fixed things up. That same 205 did even better on a 15x8. A 225 did fine on a 15x8 but was better on a 15x9. I'm sure you could get a 225 onto a 15x7 but I wouldn't do it on a front wheel drive, front heavy application.


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I still need to buy tires for ITR Expo. Hmmm.
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I still need to buy tires for ITR Expo. Hmmm.

They seem like a decent tire and should probably be able to run pretty close to the Bridgestone (because 225 vs 205) but you'll want to run them on 15x8's.


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That's interesting those tires run that wide. I may check them out for my next 15x8 option. I will be on 15x7's for ITR Expo. I have wheel problems...
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RE71R's ordered in 205/50/15 for Expo. TR currently has a deal for a $70 off card for the Bridgestones and free hazard care.
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Christian - Slightly off topic, but whats you thoughts on 225 vs 205 RR's for HondaChallenge? 15x7. 2250 vs. 2500lb car.
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I posted this in the TE thread, but probably more relevant here:

225/45/15 Rivals on the left, 215/45/16 Kumho XS' on the right


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Interesting read regarding pressures. Based on this info I am probably still running too much pressure in my 71Rs. My hot pressures were 35-36 after my last session at my last event so gonna go lower next time out.

http://www.windingroad.com/art...sures/


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RE71R's ordered in 205/50/15 for Expo. TR currently has a deal for a $70 off card for the Bridgestones and free hazard care.

Nice! Their road hazard is pretty dang good. Had to make a claim earlier this year for a 265/35 18 that got a screw in it after less than 20 runs. Easy and fast claim process.


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Christian - Slightly off topic, but whats you thoughts on 225 vs 205 RR's for HondaChallenge? 15x7. 2250 vs. 2500lb car.

I've got zero first hand experience with the RR... That being said, with an R-comp the answer is typically as much tire as you can fit (even when wheel width limited). I'd look to run a 225/205 stagger in an effort to help the front/rear come up to temp at the same rate.


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